And they would give the projects code names, you know, mostly from Star Wars, actually things like C3PO, Yoda, Luke.

And I lived in a Himalayan monastery, and I studied with a very wise teacher, who kicked me out of the monastery one day and told me that it was my destiny it felt like Yoda it is your destiny to go to work for WHO and to help eradicate smallpox, at a time when there was no smallpox program.